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Transformation Talks

Transformation Talks is an audio interview series, created and hosted by Mpoe Mogale and Nikki Shaffeeullah, about how the theatre community can better integrate the calls, work, and vision of abolition and transformative justice movements into our practice as theatre-makers, arts workers, and audiences.

In each episode, Mpoe and Nikki discuss the words of seminal abolitionists, and then interview a theatre artist who is engaging with transformative justice in their work.

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Episode 1: Conflict is a Door

In Episode 1, Conflict is a Door, Nikki and Mpoe reflect on the words of Mariama Kaba and Ruth Wilson Gilmore, and chat with Tanisha Taitt, Artistic Director of Cahoots Theatre, about the concept of “conflict transformation” for theatre artists.

Featuring Tanisha Taitt
Created by: Mpoe Mogale and Nikki Shaffeeullah
Sound design and editing by: Olivia Wheeler

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Episode 2: Governance Models

In Episode 2, Governance Models, Nikki and Mpoe reflect on the words of adrienne marie brown and Robyn Maynard, and chat with playwright, director, dramaturge and researcher Yvette Nolan, about models of governance for arts organizations.

Featuring Yvette Nolan
Created by: Mpoe Mogale and Nikki Shaffeeullah
Sound design and editing by: Olivia Wheeler

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Episode 3: Investing in the Before

In Episode 3, Investing in the Before, Nikki and Mpoe reflect on the words of Prentis Hemphill and Kai Cheng Thom, and chat with playwright, theatre director, emcee, and arts administrator, Donna-Michelle St. Bernard, about accountability vs. liability within non-profit arts organizations, and what abolition can look like in artistic collaboration.

Featuring Donna-Michelle St. Bernard
Created by: Mpoe Mogale and Nikki Shaffeeullah
Sound design and editing by: Olivia Wheeler

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